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		<title>By: Douglas</title>
		<link>http://motionographer.com/2008/01/11/guinness-dot/comment-page-1/#comment-31887</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite part of this spot is the first 3.5 seconds. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite part of this spot is the first 3.5 seconds. <img src='http://motionographer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: notyrmamasan</title>
		<link>http://motionographer.com/2008/01/11/guinness-dot/comment-page-1/#comment-31837</link>
		<dc:creator>notyrmamasan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>raptor, thereÂ´s nothing constructive or stimulatingÂ¨in comments such as:
&quot;Corporate pigs.

Sell outs.

This must explain the the lack of creativity and quality of their recent string of spots, why Psyop has lost their touch.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

I hope they never screw over their hard working artists. Then again, suits went to college to learn how to screw over artists and now suits are running Psyop.

That to me is making really simple degenerate comments about people youâ€™ve never met before and there stems the problem. You jump to conclusions and make uninformed, emotional comments and thatÂ´s why I told you to shut up. Wording like :&quot;My point was that the company seems to have sold out&quot; perfectly illustrate my point. This industry, regardless of who you are is a business and to thrive in it requires working capital. I donÂ´t see you criticizing the fine people and artist at Pixar who back in &#039;06 sold themselves to Disney to the tune of $7.4 billion or the fine people at Blue Sky who sold themselves to FOX back in Â´97 or The Mill and so on and so on. These companies have all put out groundbreaking work long after being acquired; if anything a fresh injection of capital have allowed them to do bigger and better things and why should things be any different for those people at Psyop.
So yes Raptor just follow your advice and grow up, get a job and prosper. When youÂ´re ready to commence informed and stimulating debates do come back; IÂ´ll be looking forward to it. I wish you the best of luck!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>raptor, thereÂ´s nothing constructive or stimulatingÂ¨in comments such as:<br />
&#8220;Corporate pigs.</p>
<p>Sell outs.</p>
<p>This must explain the the lack of creativity and quality of their recent string of spots, why Psyop has lost their touch.</p>
<p>$$$$$$$$$$$$$$</p>
<p>I hope they never screw over their hard working artists. Then again, suits went to college to learn how to screw over artists and now suits are running Psyop.</p>
<p>That to me is making really simple degenerate comments about people youâ€™ve never met before and there stems the problem. You jump to conclusions and make uninformed, emotional comments and thatÂ´s why I told you to shut up. Wording like :&#8221;My point was that the company seems to have sold out&#8221; perfectly illustrate my point. This industry, regardless of who you are is a business and to thrive in it requires working capital. I donÂ´t see you criticizing the fine people and artist at Pixar who back in &#8216;06 sold themselves to Disney to the tune of $7.4 billion or the fine people at Blue Sky who sold themselves to FOX back in Â´97 or The Mill and so on and so on. These companies have all put out groundbreaking work long after being acquired; if anything a fresh injection of capital have allowed them to do bigger and better things and why should things be any different for those people at Psyop.<br />
So yes Raptor just follow your advice and grow up, get a job and prosper. When youÂ´re ready to commence informed and stimulating debates do come back; IÂ´ll be looking forward to it. I wish you the best of luck!!</p>
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		<title>By: RaptorRed</title>
		<link>http://motionographer.com/2008/01/11/guinness-dot/comment-page-1/#comment-31832</link>
		<dc:creator>RaptorRed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 05:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow how sad it is that motionographer can&#039;t be a site where we criticize art and the companies that employ us in an objective manner without people resorting to silly, baseless judgements and insults.  I never said that about anyone here, this is supposed to be platform of free speech and inspiration.

Afterall isn&#039;t this the kind of stuff that&#039;s supposed to keep all of us on our toes and keep creating better and better things?

I didn&#039;t call anyone stupid or immature or bascially a screw up at life here and I&#039;m not about to start no matter what.

I mean no disrespect to the artists at Psyop, but as those of us all know who work in this industry, there is a big difference between the individuals who work at a company and the heart of the company itself.  I am not frustrated with the artists there, it&#039;s not their fault that the company (judging from what I see being created today as opposed to what looked like Psyop&#039;s glory days) has allowed for a decline in quality.  I am talking about an entity, not the collection of freelance and staff artists there.

As artists we sell ourselves out in the commercial industry to make a buck.  That&#039;s fine.  I&#039;m not intending to starve just to make work no one will buy.  Of course we sell ourselves out to a certain degree, that wasn&#039;t the point and it shouldn&#039;t be used as a scapegoat to disregard my comments.

My point was that the company seems to have sold out.  What happened to persuade, influence and change?  They&#039;ve changed to me as evidenced by the body of work they have posted on their site.  But I guess that they&#039;ve persuaded the world to accept that anything they make is golden.

If I told you that the same company made Ratatouille and then went on to make Hoodwinked wouldn&#039;t you be upset?  You can&#039;t just wantonly make CG pieces with CG &#039;elements of cool&#039; and say that they are of the same quality because they were conceived of the same brand name.  That to me has been a problem the CG industry altogether has been facing.

To the owner of that raptor red site, I&#039;m sorry that it was found and judged since that site has nothing to do with me.  This screen name was taken from a character in a book that we&#039;ve apparently both read.

It was about dinosaurs.

To the artists at Psyop, my frustrations weren&#039;t directed at you.

To stay on topic I really do think this is a pretty piece, but I guess that bit of my post was lost when my comments CEASED to be comments.

If you&#039;ll excuse me, this is just my personal opinion and I&#039;m going to go grow up, get a job and prosper without selling out.  It&#039;s really too bad that my childish rants couldn&#039;t spur more stimulating debate about the quality of commercial work. 

I criticised something without name calling or crude language or even making really simple degenerate comments about people I&#039;ve never met before.  Too bad that means I should be told to shut up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow how sad it is that motionographer can&#8217;t be a site where we criticize art and the companies that employ us in an objective manner without people resorting to silly, baseless judgements and insults.  I never said that about anyone here, this is supposed to be platform of free speech and inspiration.</p>
<p>Afterall isn&#8217;t this the kind of stuff that&#8217;s supposed to keep all of us on our toes and keep creating better and better things?</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t call anyone stupid or immature or bascially a screw up at life here and I&#8217;m not about to start no matter what.</p>
<p>I mean no disrespect to the artists at Psyop, but as those of us all know who work in this industry, there is a big difference between the individuals who work at a company and the heart of the company itself.  I am not frustrated with the artists there, it&#8217;s not their fault that the company (judging from what I see being created today as opposed to what looked like Psyop&#8217;s glory days) has allowed for a decline in quality.  I am talking about an entity, not the collection of freelance and staff artists there.</p>
<p>As artists we sell ourselves out in the commercial industry to make a buck.  That&#8217;s fine.  I&#8217;m not intending to starve just to make work no one will buy.  Of course we sell ourselves out to a certain degree, that wasn&#8217;t the point and it shouldn&#8217;t be used as a scapegoat to disregard my comments.</p>
<p>My point was that the company seems to have sold out.  What happened to persuade, influence and change?  They&#8217;ve changed to me as evidenced by the body of work they have posted on their site.  But I guess that they&#8217;ve persuaded the world to accept that anything they make is golden.</p>
<p>If I told you that the same company made Ratatouille and then went on to make Hoodwinked wouldn&#8217;t you be upset?  You can&#8217;t just wantonly make CG pieces with CG &#8216;elements of cool&#8217; and say that they are of the same quality because they were conceived of the same brand name.  That to me has been a problem the CG industry altogether has been facing.</p>
<p>To the owner of that raptor red site, I&#8217;m sorry that it was found and judged since that site has nothing to do with me.  This screen name was taken from a character in a book that we&#8217;ve apparently both read.</p>
<p>It was about dinosaurs.</p>
<p>To the artists at Psyop, my frustrations weren&#8217;t directed at you.</p>
<p>To stay on topic I really do think this is a pretty piece, but I guess that bit of my post was lost when my comments CEASED to be comments.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ll excuse me, this is just my personal opinion and I&#8217;m going to go grow up, get a job and prosper without selling out.  It&#8217;s really too bad that my childish rants couldn&#8217;t spur more stimulating debate about the quality of commercial work. </p>
<p>I criticised something without name calling or crude language or even making really simple degenerate comments about people I&#8217;ve never met before.  Too bad that means I should be told to shut up.</p>
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		<title>By: morphogenetic</title>
		<link>http://motionographer.com/2008/01/11/guinness-dot/comment-page-1/#comment-31822</link>
		<dc:creator>morphogenetic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To stay on topic, I enjoy few gorgeous shots on this spot but as a whole it&#039;s awful. The end is an infuriating anticlimax. I love the earlier works of Psyop but lately their spots have become mediocre. Orangina is hideous and ripping off their first legendary Coke Happiness Factory. Second Happiness Factory is a waste of money and time. It&#039;s longer and uglier than the original and does nothing better. Copypasta. The new Infiniti compared to the original ones is ugly. The finesse isn&#039;t there anymore.

Anyhoo, this is just my personal opinion. I wish the new Israeli Psyop good luck and I hope they will be able to double their revenue in next two years and get the extra $13.75 million.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To stay on topic, I enjoy few gorgeous shots on this spot but as a whole it&#8217;s awful. The end is an infuriating anticlimax. I love the earlier works of Psyop but lately their spots have become mediocre. Orangina is hideous and ripping off their first legendary Coke Happiness Factory. Second Happiness Factory is a waste of money and time. It&#8217;s longer and uglier than the original and does nothing better. Copypasta. The new Infiniti compared to the original ones is ugly. The finesse isn&#8217;t there anymore.</p>
<p>Anyhoo, this is just my personal opinion. I wish the new Israeli Psyop good luck and I hope they will be able to double their revenue in next two years and get the extra $13.75 million.</p>
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		<title>By: notyrmamasan</title>
		<link>http://motionographer.com/2008/01/11/guinness-dot/comment-page-1/#comment-31821</link>
		<dc:creator>notyrmamasan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://motionographer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: morphogenetic</title>
		<link>http://motionographer.com/2008/01/11/guinness-dot/comment-page-1/#comment-31820</link>
		<dc:creator>morphogenetic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, notyrmamasan, I agree with your logic. If one would write a norwegian message on a Bulgarian thread, there is a danger that the vast majority might not be able to understand it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, notyrmamasan, I agree with your logic. If one would write a norwegian message on a Bulgarian thread, there is a danger that the vast majority might not be able to understand it.</p>
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		<title>By: notyrmamasan</title>
		<link>http://motionographer.com/2008/01/11/guinness-dot/comment-page-1/#comment-31819</link>
		<dc:creator>notyrmamasan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morpho, I&#039;m sorry if my English skills aren&#039;t up to par with yours, but I worry that if I was to write it out in my native tongue, the likes of you would not understand it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morpho, I&#8217;m sorry if my English skills aren&#8217;t up to par with yours, but I worry that if I was to write it out in my native tongue, the likes of you would not understand it.</p>
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		<title>By: morphogenetic</title>
		<link>http://motionographer.com/2008/01/11/guinness-dot/comment-page-1/#comment-31818</link>
		<dc:creator>morphogenetic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>notyrmamasan, your sentence &quot;Raptor, your ignorance and stupidity never seizes to amaze me.&quot; will have even more punch if you spell it correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>notyrmamasan, your sentence &#8220;Raptor, your ignorance and stupidity never seizes to amaze me.&#8221; will have even more punch if you spell it correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: notyrmamasan</title>
		<link>http://motionographer.com/2008/01/11/guinness-dot/comment-page-1/#comment-31817</link>
		<dc:creator>notyrmamasan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must apologize, if http://www.raptorred.com/ is your website, I can now understand your frustation with those talented artist at psyop</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must apologize, if <a href="http://www.raptorred.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.raptorred.com/</a> is your website, I can now understand your frustation with those talented artist at psyop</p>
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		<title>By: notyrmamasan</title>
		<link>http://motionographer.com/2008/01/11/guinness-dot/comment-page-1/#comment-31815</link>
		<dc:creator>notyrmamasan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raptor, your ignorance and stupidity never seizes to amaze me. Your comments seized being comments a long time ago and now are finally showing your immaturity and lack of experience in this industry you so easily bash. Grow up, get a job and prosper in it without selling yourself out a single time and then come back to us and enlighten us with your wisdom. Until then, do us all a favor and put an end to your childish rants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raptor, your ignorance and stupidity never seizes to amaze me. Your comments seized being comments a long time ago and now are finally showing your immaturity and lack of experience in this industry you so easily bash. Grow up, get a job and prosper in it without selling yourself out a single time and then come back to us and enlighten us with your wisdom. Until then, do us all a favor and put an end to your childish rants.</p>
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