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> <channel><title>Comments on: Dear Sesame St.</title> <atom:link href="http://motionographer.com/2010/02/22/dear-sesame-st/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://motionographer.com/2010/02/22/dear-sesame-st/?utm_source=rss&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=rss</link> <description>Motionographer shares the best in moving media, from student work to feature films.</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:13:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: turtle</title><link>http://motionographer.com/2010/02/22/dear-sesame-st/comment-page-1/#comment-41846</link> <dc:creator>turtle</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:31:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://motionographer.com/?p=26286#comment-41846</guid> <description>I also feel quite strongly about being asked to do spec work to win the work and can definitely vouch for having been in the situation of doing the agency the favour job for peanuts on the promise of future potential and they always go to the big shop down the track when they have the money, whether it&#039;s for the junket, the kudos of working with the bigger brand, the award chasing or simply because they can.
What bugs me a bit and why I&#039;m only responding now....we take the high ground on this example and try to name and shame yet we are promoting a book that is celebrating work of this very nature - &#039;Styleframes&#039; produced by Stash. I would wonder how many of the pages will feature work anyone has commissioned or paid for, how much of it was leached from false promises, pitches that went out to a variety of studios even though they knew from the outset which one was getting the gig. To me this is wrong and Stash have a cheek trying to profit from the work of people that represents the very essence of the issue we are getting on our high horses about.
Come on guys, is it just because we like Stash that we have let this slide?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also feel quite strongly about being asked to do spec work to win the work and can definitely vouch for having been in the situation of doing the agency the favour job for peanuts on the promise of future potential and they always go to the big shop down the track when they have the money, whether it&#8217;s for the junket, the kudos of working with the bigger brand, the award chasing or simply because they can.</p><p>What bugs me a bit and why I&#8217;m only responding now&#8230;.we take the high ground on this example and try to name and shame yet we are promoting a book that is celebrating work of this very nature &#8211; &#8216;Styleframes&#8217; produced by Stash. I would wonder how many of the pages will feature work anyone has commissioned or paid for, how much of it was leached from false promises, pitches that went out to a variety of studios even though they knew from the outset which one was getting the gig. To me this is wrong and Stash have a cheek trying to profit from the work of people that represents the very essence of the issue we are getting on our high horses about.</p><p>Come on guys, is it just because we like Stash that we have let this slide?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: HoffmanC</title><link>http://motionographer.com/2010/02/22/dear-sesame-st/comment-page-1/#comment-41724</link> <dc:creator>HoffmanC</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 05:10:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://motionographer.com/?p=26286#comment-41724</guid> <description>Competitions are a great way for new talent to get their names out. I think we can all agree to that.
But lets not confuse exposure through healthy competition and just plain being taken advantage of. I remember submitting work to Computer Arts Mag years back, Addy Awards, Boards and Telly awards and other numerous industry magazines and so forth. Even in my school days, I submitted photographs to Nikon who hold annual competitions. Weather they made a difference or not, I just thought it might be a way for the potential right people to get to know me.
I think those arguing that competitions are a good thing should remember that there are so many healthy organizations that hold competitions every year with the REAL intention of getting new talent&#039;s names out there, more than you have enough work to enter.
The type of competitions we are talking about in this particular instance however, is a mere carrot being dangled in front of ambitious, young, all or nothing artists. Some Ad Agencies sometimes do this to an extent to new, small motion design companies all the time: &quot;Just do this 60sec all 3D job for 5K and we will give you a bigger budget job next time&quot;. Well, do you know what they do when they get a 600K job? They go to Psyop or SuperFad. In all my years working at different shops this has always been the case. Its the same equation. Dangle the carrot, there are enough people hungry and ambitious enough to do it for free.
I really appreciate all the work and talent that goes into motion graphics. I also feel really happy when I see all the work all these new young fledglings are doing. I really would like to see them paid for it. Not everyone can do it... its a talent.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Competitions are a great way for new talent to get their names out. I think we can all agree to that.<br
/> But lets not confuse exposure through healthy competition and just plain being taken advantage of. I remember submitting work to Computer Arts Mag years back, Addy Awards, Boards and Telly awards and other numerous industry magazines and so forth. Even in my school days, I submitted photographs to Nikon who hold annual competitions. Weather they made a difference or not, I just thought it might be a way for the potential right people to get to know me.<br
/> I think those arguing that competitions are a good thing should remember that there are so many healthy organizations that hold competitions every year with the REAL intention of getting new talent&#8217;s names out there, more than you have enough work to enter.<br
/> The type of competitions we are talking about in this particular instance however, is a mere carrot being dangled in front of ambitious, young, all or nothing artists. Some Ad Agencies sometimes do this to an extent to new, small motion design companies all the time: &#8220;Just do this 60sec all 3D job for 5K and we will give you a bigger budget job next time&#8221;. Well, do you know what they do when they get a 600K job? They go to Psyop or SuperFad. In all my years working at different shops this has always been the case. Its the same equation. Dangle the carrot, there are enough people hungry and ambitious enough to do it for free.<br
/> I really appreciate all the work and talent that goes into motion graphics. I also feel really happy when I see all the work all these new young fledglings are doing. I really would like to see them paid for it. Not everyone can do it&#8230; its a talent.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: GiantVFX</title><link>http://motionographer.com/2010/02/22/dear-sesame-st/comment-page-1/#comment-41715</link> <dc:creator>GiantVFX</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:55:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://motionographer.com/?p=26286#comment-41715</guid> <description>The NDA is standard legal jargon, I don&#039;t for one second believe that Sesame intends to use a design without the consent/ payment of an artist... or they wouldn&#039;t be giving out a CASH prize for the winners.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NDA is standard legal jargon, I don&#8217;t for one second believe that Sesame intends to use a design without the consent/ payment of an artist&#8230; or they wouldn&#8217;t be giving out a CASH prize for the winners.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rhooks</title><link>http://motionographer.com/2010/02/22/dear-sesame-st/comment-page-1/#comment-41714</link> <dc:creator>rhooks</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:45:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://motionographer.com/?p=26286#comment-41714</guid> <description>They&#039;re so cute though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ9WiuJPnNA</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re so cute though:</p><p><span
style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a
href="http://motionographer.com/2010/02/22/dear-sesame-st/"><img
src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/fZ9WiuJPnNA/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bran Dougherty-Johnson</title><link>http://motionographer.com/2010/02/22/dear-sesame-st/comment-page-1/#comment-41706</link> <dc:creator>Bran Dougherty-Johnson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:55:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://motionographer.com/?p=26286#comment-41706</guid> <description>It might be an inherent part of the contest model, but that doesn&#039;t make it right. They could as easily sign a non-exclusive license for creator&#039;s content they&#039;d like to use or put the contest out using creative commons. This issue is exactly why we decided to call out this particular contest now.
Yes, there are other organizations out there, like the many advertising agencies who constantly ask for work on spec from design and animation studios. And there are now many, many signatories from studios on this list, who obviously feel that this is a problem in our industry. Perhaps this may snowball into calling them out as well. But the Sesame Street / Aniboom competition is an open, public contest and agency requests usually are not.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be an inherent part of the contest model, but that doesn&#8217;t make it right. They could as easily sign a non-exclusive license for creator&#8217;s content they&#8217;d like to use or put the contest out using creative commons. This issue is exactly why we decided to call out this particular contest now.</p><p>Yes, there are other organizations out there, like the many advertising agencies who constantly ask for work on spec from design and animation studios. And there are now many, many signatories from studios on this list, who obviously feel that this is a problem in our industry. Perhaps this may snowball into calling them out as well. But the Sesame Street / Aniboom competition is an open, public contest and agency requests usually are not.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jesse Casey</title><link>http://motionographer.com/2010/02/22/dear-sesame-st/comment-page-1/#comment-41704</link> <dc:creator>Jesse Casey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 05:14:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://motionographer.com/?p=26286#comment-41704</guid> <description>And this is why these contests are problematic, especially for people just getting started out that aren&#039;t as aware of IP/ownership issues.
It&#039;s not even something malicious that the companies that run the contests are doing. They can&#039;t take these clauses out – they need to protect themselves in case they independently develop an idea similar to one of the contest submissions.
It&#039;s just an inherent part of the unsolicited submission/contest model.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this is why these contests are problematic, especially for people just getting started out that aren&#8217;t as aware of IP/ownership issues.</p><p>It&#8217;s not even something malicious that the companies that run the contests are doing. They can&#8217;t take these clauses out – they need to protect themselves in case they independently develop an idea similar to one of the contest submissions.</p><p>It&#8217;s just an inherent part of the unsolicited submission/contest model.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: brandnewsome</title><link>http://motionographer.com/2010/02/22/dear-sesame-st/comment-page-1/#comment-41703</link> <dc:creator>brandnewsome</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 04:21:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://motionographer.com/?p=26286#comment-41703</guid> <description>What, is Big Bird outside &quot;with an eye-patch and a tin cup in the street? Fuck no!&quot; Tell them, Harlan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fE</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What, is Big Bird outside &#8220;with an eye-patch and a tin cup in the street? Fuck no!&#8221; Tell them, Harlan <a
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fE</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Yussef</title><link>http://motionographer.com/2010/02/22/dear-sesame-st/comment-page-1/#comment-41702</link> <dc:creator>Yussef</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 02:03:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://motionographer.com/?p=26286#comment-41702</guid> <description>How do you explain Sesame Street taking ownership of all contributions so that even if you don&#039;t win, they still own your work? They can use it in future projects without involving you and without bring any legal repercussions on themselves. Not very cool for such an ethical and philanthropic organization.
Here&#039;s the text from the personal release for all winners AND finalists (losers):
For good and valuable consideration including participation in this program, I hereby
grant to you and your respective licensees, successors and assigns the absolute right
and permission to photograph, publish, record, broadcast, exhibit, digitize, display,
telecast, copyright, use and otherwise exploit perpetually throughout the world for all
media now or hereafter known or devised, my name, likeness, recorded voice,
performance, picture, caricature, nickname and any material furnished by me on and in
connection with the use exploitation and promotion of your television program(s) or
products connected therewith.  I grant you full power to assign said rights contained
herein to anyone at your sole option.
I shall have no right of approval, no claim to compensation, and claim (including, without
limitation, claims based upon invasion of privacy, defamation, or right of publicity)
arising out of any use, alteration, distortion, or illusionary effect or use in any composite
form of my voice, picture, image or likeness.
As between us, you are the sole owner of all rights in the program recording and you rely
on my assurance that I am free lawfully to grant the right above set forth.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you explain Sesame Street taking ownership of all contributions so that even if you don&#8217;t win, they still own your work? They can use it in future projects without involving you and without bring any legal repercussions on themselves. Not very cool for such an ethical and philanthropic organization.</p><p>Here&#8217;s the text from the personal release for all winners AND finalists (losers):</p><p>For good and valuable consideration including participation in this program, I hereby<br
/> grant to you and your respective licensees, successors and assigns the absolute right<br
/> and permission to photograph, publish, record, broadcast, exhibit, digitize, display,<br
/> telecast, copyright, use and otherwise exploit perpetually throughout the world for all<br
/> media now or hereafter known or devised, my name, likeness, recorded voice,<br
/> performance, picture, caricature, nickname and any material furnished by me on and in<br
/> connection with the use exploitation and promotion of your television program(s) or<br
/> products connected therewith.  I grant you full power to assign said rights contained<br
/> herein to anyone at your sole option.</p><p>I shall have no right of approval, no claim to compensation, and claim (including, without<br
/> limitation, claims based upon invasion of privacy, defamation, or right of publicity)<br
/> arising out of any use, alteration, distortion, or illusionary effect or use in any composite<br
/> form of my voice, picture, image or likeness.</p><p>As between us, you are the sole owner of all rights in the program recording and you rely<br
/> on my assurance that I am free lawfully to grant the right above set forth.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: GiantVFX</title><link>http://motionographer.com/2010/02/22/dear-sesame-st/comment-page-1/#comment-41694</link> <dc:creator>GiantVFX</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:08:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://motionographer.com/?p=26286#comment-41694</guid> <description>I have to reiterate... everyone realizes that there is a cash prize, right? It&#039;s not for nothing.
And that all of this is directed at Sesame Workshop, a non-profit organization... one that is educating children all around the world... stepping in when countries fail at educating their kids. We have a literacy epidemic in this country and Sesame is trying to fill that gap. This anger is completely misplaced.
Sesame pays it&#039;s artists well, better than 75% of the agencies in New York. Why are you not railing against any of the agencies, that have a track record of hiring freelancers, or small companies, using them for a few weeks to do work and then saying oops, the job went away, sorry we can&#039;t pay you for your time and work. Or like Nickelodeon, that pays 25% of the going dayrate to awesome artists?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to reiterate&#8230; everyone realizes that there is a cash prize, right? It&#8217;s not for nothing.</p><p>And that all of this is directed at Sesame Workshop, a non-profit organization&#8230; one that is educating children all around the world&#8230; stepping in when countries fail at educating their kids. We have a literacy epidemic in this country and Sesame is trying to fill that gap. This anger is completely misplaced.</p><p>Sesame pays it&#8217;s artists well, better than 75% of the agencies in New York. Why are you not railing against any of the agencies, that have a track record of hiring freelancers, or small companies, using them for a few weeks to do work and then saying oops, the job went away, sorry we can&#8217;t pay you for your time and work. Or like Nickelodeon, that pays 25% of the going dayrate to awesome artists?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Thiago Maia</title><link>http://motionographer.com/2010/02/22/dear-sesame-st/comment-page-1/#comment-41693</link> <dc:creator>Thiago Maia</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:58:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://motionographer.com/?p=26286#comment-41693</guid> <description>Worth to watch this video. We should do the same:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2a8TRSgzZY&amp;feature=player_embedded</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worth to watch this video. We should do the same:<br
/> <span
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href="http://motionographer.com/2010/02/22/dear-sesame-st/"><img
src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/R2a8TRSgzZY/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
